Why AI Coding Agents Are Here To Stay | Patrick Debois

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow
15 July 2025 48 min
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Episode Description
Patrick Debois, the mind behind “DevOps,” joins Simon Maple to unpack the system-level shifts AI is driving across software engineering, drawn from what he saw firsthand at the AI Engineer’s World Fair.They also get into:• how inconsistent codebases confuse AI• why running agents locally is becoming obsolete• inside OpenAI’s concept of “model specs”AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in a

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